tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post3609326216470262004..comments2024-02-07T00:00:58.535-08:00Comments on The Wellness Without Pity Blog: Clean Eating, and what it is NOT (this got long)Healthy Heatherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11343516605721256497noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-40826081832518285812010-09-17T15:02:29.652-07:002010-09-17T15:02:29.652-07:00I am all for the 80/20 rule. Avoid crap foods 80%...I am all for the 80/20 rule. Avoid crap foods 80% of the time, and the other 20% enjoy life a little. I have lost 17 lbs in 48 days just following Robb Wolf's Paleo outline, because I want to see how LEAN I can get in 90 days. After that the plan is 80/20 and use the mirror to gauge what i eat. Pretty simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-85824095664986313462010-09-17T03:58:39.651-07:002010-09-17T03:58:39.651-07:00Yeah, we should all go out for some clean eating p...Yeah, we should all go out for some clean eating pizza now! :)Healthy Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343516605721256497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-46948045422927702972010-09-16T12:32:30.669-07:002010-09-16T12:32:30.669-07:00Now how awesome would the internet be if every deb...Now how awesome would the internet be if every debate ended with a smiley face?<br /><br />Answer: Fantastically amazingly awesome =DRog Law The Stupendoushttp://www.roglawfitness.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-61905133202802447192010-09-16T03:57:15.626-07:002010-09-16T03:57:15.626-07:00thanks Rog and JC for the comments, I completely s...thanks Rog and JC for the comments, I completely see your point of view and am so glad to have a reasoned discussion of it here. I discuss clean eating with a lot of people every day, so I get protective over what I consider to be a totally healthy way to eat. But, everyone puts their own spin on it, and that's part of what makes it great. Ultimately, I choose not to eat processed foods because I don't want to, and I have a widely varied diet without them. I eat pizza, drink wine, bake desserts, and more while still adhering to my own personal standards. Thanks for the calm and reasoned discourse! :)Healthy Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343516605721256497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-43845735173708170042010-09-15T09:23:26.663-07:002010-09-15T09:23:26.663-07:00Thanks Roger. I appreciate your explanation and i...Thanks Roger. I appreciate your explanation and it's spot-on.JChttp://jcdfitness.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-69113605965010097332010-09-15T08:59:06.593-07:002010-09-15T08:59:06.593-07:00in with = in life. My typing skills have failed me...in with = in life. My typing skills have failed me many times before - this won't be the final occasion!Rog Law The Stupendoushttp://www.roglawfitness.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-33090517770625250052010-09-15T07:30:21.116-07:002010-09-15T07:30:21.116-07:00Hey Heather,
You brought up some great points in ...Hey Heather,<br /><br />You brought up some great points in your rebuttal, especially the one about how "clean eating" doesn't automatically ensure that someone is healthy. However, I think the thing that got you most riled up (and you admitted to this in the comment section), was the fact that he advocated abandoning this style of eating.<br /><br />The title of the article was based on pure sensationalism - a potentially divisive one used to draw attention and get people to read the actual content of the article and spark discussion, which it did - hooray!<br /><br />I feel that JC wasn't so much attacking the "clean eating" food choices, but more so the mentality that many people attach to it. On one hand you have foods that are deemed great and healthy, then on the other there are foods are unhealthy and seemingly off limits, rarely to be eaten. This often creates a Mortal Kombat-esque mental battle of epic proportions and that is what I think JC was saying should be abandoned for several reasons:<br /><br />1) As far as health is concerned, the risks of sandwiching an otherwise healthy lifestyle filled with tons veggies, fruits, healthy fats and protein with processed foods such is cakes, cookies and ice cream is negligible. It is the long term avoidance of such micronutrient/anti-oxidant rich foods that causes problems.<br /><br />2)Once this mental class system of food is thrown to the wayside, people tend to have a lot more relaxed, objective relationship with food, which is never a bad thing.<br /><br />Like you said though - moderation and personalization is the key, just like with anything else in with =)Rog Law The Stupendoushttp://www.roglawfitness.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-16662095608467782542010-09-15T03:31:01.424-07:002010-09-15T03:31:01.424-07:00Eek, I think you hit the nail on the head - modera...Eek, I think you hit the nail on the head - moderation and personalization is the key for some people. And I think what made me so angry about what he wrote is that he advocated abandoning clean eating because it didn't work for *him*. Ultimately, by incorporating moderation into your diet, your body rewarded you by righting itself and becoming healthier. I am really really bad at moderation so when I try to do it consistently, I fail miserably! It is something I need to get better at.<br /><br />Thanks for your reasoned comment. I appreciate it!Healthy Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11343516605721256497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-66598925316294310302010-09-14T17:58:25.054-07:002010-09-14T17:58:25.054-07:00Hey there. I'm going to tackle on the bulleted...Hey there. I'm going to tackle on the bulleted points.<br /><br />1. See there is the first problem with the word clean. It is clearly a subjective term. What is clean. I think JC is talking about moderation. Eating foods that you particulary enjoy without overdoing it. Meet your protein needs, eat some veggies, fruit, and its cool if you have a pizza. It's not going to make a difference.<br /><br />2. Wait, so I get this. Milk is bad because of saturated fat? Eggs too?<br /><br />3. I believe clean eating did do that to him because it didn't jive with him. What he needed was moderation.<br /><br />A couple of years ago my bloodwork was crap. I decided to make a change. I started by eating clean and doing other BBer stuff which is nor relavent here. But no matter how much I worked out or ate cleanly, my bloodwork would not improve. <br /><br />I got really frustrated and I remember going to restaurants and not being able to pick the foods that I love. Some of the "cleaner" foods looked good but I like pasta and the creamy stuff. I like fries and burgers. I like ice cream. J love pizza, Mexican food. So why deprive myself of them. Why not learn how to integrate them into my diet. That is when I contacted Alan Aragon. He taught me how to do just that. I eat fruit, lean meats, veggies, and also foods deemed unclean. I was happy.<br /><br />The cool thing? My blood profile improved, so much that I qualified for the highest bracket in my whole term life insurance.<br /><br />Ultimately you have to do what makes you happy. Eating "clean" obviously works for you. It didn't work for me but I learned how to make my diet work for me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17820600047441807961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7982759311924665730.post-42108327298521037922010-09-14T07:43:14.583-07:002010-09-14T07:43:14.583-07:00That was a truly horrible article. I think no mat...That was a truly horrible article. I think no matter what "quick fix" solution that person found, he was bound to mess it up.<br /><br />Health is not accomplished by following a restrictive diet for X number of weeks then binging at Denny's.Christynoreply@blogger.com